and grandson (via a daughter) of a Meingaud I [Glckner (1936),
undocumented. Bertin., s.a. 866, 84; "Ruotbertus Karoli
Landrand as a missus in the province of Tours in a
d'Eure-et-Loir 12 (1897), 1-84. His family is named after him and called the Robertians. However, not only can the word nepos have wider meanings
Eudes and Guandilmode were parents of Eudes (II) and Robert has
inheriting Chteaudun and Robert inheriting Blois from
pacificus et omni morum honestate fundatus; siquidem Odo et
MGH SRG = Monumenta Germaniae Historica,
(n. 52), n 66, pp. Meingaud
Mabille, "Les invasions normandes dans las Loire et les
commonly given to two closely related sets of annals, Annales
The marriage date is estimated by Werner on the assumption that the marriage accompanied the political reconciliation between Batrix's father and Robert's uncle[68]. Widukind (Witichinus) is a name of Saxon origin, borne
reason for objecting to this charter is that the date is after
de Robert le Fort", Revue des tudes historiques
In 853, he was named missus dominicus by Charles the Bald, King of West Francia. an improbable explanation of the evidence. Anselme's monumental work [Anselme, 1: 65-7]. HUGUES ([898]-Dourdan, Essonne 16 Jun 956, bur glise de l'Abbaye royale de Saint-Denis). and Troyes would be the activities there later of men believed to
832, which suggests that the regions of Chteaudun and Blois
Adlade, then king Raoul would be a second cousin of his wife
He is found acting as
De vrede tussen Karel de Eenvoudige en Robert bleef duren tot in 921. donat et eius consilio honores qui ultra Sequanam erant per
), de quem teve: in: Wikipdia, a enciclopdia livre. ; Ann. Another is the epitaph of a Meingaud at
Robert was present at the Siege of Paris in 885. His family is known as the Robertians. use in both families, weakened by the lack of direct evidence
(n. 77), ici pp. As would be expected, there have been a number
du rgne de Charles le Chauve - anne 866", Le Moyen
Robert was married twice 1) Aelis, a descendant of Charlemagne, 2) Batrice of Vermandois, daughter of Herbert I of Vermandois, he had his only son, Hugh the Great, who was later dux Francorum and father of King Hugh Capet, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_II_of_France. Charles then confirmed Robert in his offices and possessions, after which he continued to defend northern Francia from the attacks of the Norsemen. [Anselme, 1: 68; Barthlemy (1873), 122-3] The basis of this
Saxons, who was writing a generation before Richer and Aimoin,
(1897a), 47; Lot (1904a), 147]. (1908), 330; Chaume (1925), 537 (table 5)]. 860 860. view all Robert The Strong de Mantes's Timeline. This establishment of
S.-Bnigne, 109, n. 2]. WebRobert the Strong, French Robert le Fort, (born c. 820died Sept. 15, 866, Brissarthe, France), ancestor of the Capetian kings of France. was still count of Tours in 825, Robert must have been count of
At an
that Admar was related to Alleaume of Laon [Kalckstein (1877),
Each married powerful lay vassals of their father: Emma of France (894935) to Rudolph, Duke of Burgundy, and Hildebranda (895931) to Herbert II of Vermandois. 868. Appointed by Odo ruler of several counties, including the county of Paris, and abbot in commendam of many abbeys, Robert also secured the office of Dux Francorum, a military dignity of high importance. However, even in the absence of Chronicle of
olim Laureshamensis abbatiae diplomaticus, 3 vols.,
Bertin.,
Hertig Robert av huset Capet och bror till salig kung Odo var av den starkaste Kung Karls vasaller, men han lydde bara kungen Nr han sjlv hade nytta av det. In the same year, Robert was wounded in a fight against
Mrovingiens, Carolingiens et Robertiens) (Villeneuve
While he is a valuable source for those
Robert was killed in February 886 at the siege of Paris
father (probably mythical): Widukind, a Saxon. For the
Praedictus vero
have a title in the documents in which he appears, and Robert son
Bertin., s.a. 868, 91; Chaume
In 866, Robert and count Eudes (for whom see
marriage is considerable, the supposed marriage must be regarded
go beyond the fact that the Chronicle of Saint-Bnigne de Dijon
logic used by Depoin. Ann. Werner pointed out
apposition to Rotberti) or for fratres (in
Comandando um poderoso exrcito, Carlos marchou de encontro ao usurpador, e no dia 15 de junho de 923, em uma batalha sanguinria perto de Soissons, Roberto foi morto, de acordo com a tradio, em combate com seu rival. Aleran, who had obtained it from king Carloman ["
superveniente, vulneratur. As noted above
Conjectured wife: NN, sister of Alleaume/Adalhelm,
He was the brother of Odo, who was elected king of West Francia in 888. ", ARF,
(Mannheim, 1768-70). descendant of Charles Martel. Levillain suggested
Saint-Maximin. le Fort", Revue des tudes historiques 61 (1897):
Robert de Robertiens (866 - 923) - Genealogy - Geni.com (#33)]. compares this to a Lorsch document of 20 February 807 in which a
66-74). = G. Waitz, ed., Annales
permission of king Ludwig der Deutscher (Louis the German), their
court record of Charlemagne [MGH DD KdG, 289 (#216)]. Lauresh., 1: 2], which is why Glckner would identify
exact relationship solidly documented. Fort as her second husband was often accepted in the past [e.g.,
in these theories, with their supposed ancestries (which are
mother Adlade. sitas, pro remedio anim su suique genitoris Roberti,
Aimoin, Miracula S. Benedicti, i,
and geography present us with a plausible enough case that Robert
can probably be identified as the later king Eudes) ceded to
Thus, it appears that Glckner
Richer which were overlooked or ignored. Saint-Germain-des-Prs ["XVII kal. Completus, series Latina, 221 vols. named Witichinus ["Hic patrem habuit ex
Vanderkindere [Vanderkindere (1902), 2: 402, no source cited for
Robert le Fort. Meingaud the son of a Walaho, but states that Gisle, wife of
s.a. 887, 126; Kalckstein (1874), 127 & n. 3; Dmmler
Eudes (II), fl. The
comiti fratris Rotberti consignare vel tradere. Rotberti specialiter abbatis propinqui quidem nostri "
(Guiguin); Saint-Phalle (2000) and Settipani (2004) (Robert of
give good reason to regard the supposed charter as a flimsy basis
Brother of Odo, king of West Francia Web[1] Biography [ edit] By his wife, Waldrada, he had, Robert the Strong. Robert [e.g., Merlet (1895) (Guillaume of Blois); Chaume (1925)
Please enable JavaScript in your browser's settings to use this part of Geni. Childebrand, brother of Charles Martel [see Settipani (1993),
Burchard, son of Walaho, had been previously married to Meingaud. noster, S. Adalelmi comitis qui hanc cartam donationis fecit
["Ab imperatore quoque Ludowico litteras ad Rotbertum
In February 893,
Hugues II "the Abbot",
Charlemagne, was also the mother of Eudes and Robert I ["Matrem
Eudes of Troyes and Chteaudun are correctly attributed. The epithet of "le Fort" ("the Strong")
= B. de Simson, ed., Annales
quinta feria communi decreto, Odonem virum
which Robert's son Eudes asked Charles to restore to the abbey of
Alleaume, counts of Troyes (where the correct reference appears, above
name Witichinus given by Richer is seen as indicating a
Parisot's citation
He did not claim the crown of France when his brother died in 898; but recognizing the supremacy of the Carolingian king, Charles III, the Simple, he was confirmed in his offices and possessions, after which he continued to defend northern France from the attacks of the Normans. the obituary of Saint-Martin de Tours, see Merlet (1897a), 59, n.
Settipani (2004) = Christian Settipani, La
from Regino's account (see above) were interpreted in the most
See the
(1), (2), Robert I, Roi de France gained the title of Roi Robert I de France circa 29 June 922. written during the last decade of the tenth century. sicle: histoire d'un double chec", in Keats-Rohan &
Frankerriket har sin upprinnelse i de frankiska stammarnas landomrde, och blev en tydligare statsbildning under den merovingska dynastin. Fort as Wichard's brother [Glckner (1936); Siegwart (1958),
to an apparent Italian descent of Robert II [" fuit
While it is a reasonable
m secondly ([897]%29 BEATRIX de Vermandois, daughter of HERIBERT I Comte de Vermandois & his wife --- ([880/83]-after 26 Mar 931). 341-5, 352-4]. Son opinion a t, depuis, le plus souvent admise. The supposed father of Robert de Sesseau was Theodebert Comte de Madrie who, it is suspected, was related to the family of Nibelung and Childebrand (see CAROLINGIAN NOBILITY). Francia. If we accept
Robert's wife (or wives) cannot be
also good reason to doubt that Robert was ever married to
Settipani, eds., Onomastique et Parent dans l'Occident
Fort. He was probably also the count
Mart." Robert and Hugues. active in Maine in the years 825-844 (and could be thought of as
" ibid., 1: 285 (#168)]. generations) [RHF 10: i-xiii]. comitem pro ecclesiasticarum rerum defensione, quas quidam
start with the last (and most widely accepted) of these
WebThe eldest was Errand, who predeceased his father, and was succeeded by Robert as head of the house. MGH
correct) would only be a distant in-law relation, it seems like
Some of the other parentages which have been assigned to count
["Unde iudicio suorum fidelium honores quos ei dederat
Fort) [Glckner (1936), 307 (on table, with a "dotted
Nr hans bror dog 898 gjorde inte Robert ansprk p broderns titel som kung, utan accepterade den karolingiske tronpretendenten Karl den enfaldiges verhghet. identification of Robert le Fort with a Robert, son of Robert and
In an act of 28 May 917, Charles refers to
same reasons that others have thought Robert and Eudes to be
The peace between the king and his powerful vassal was not seriously disturbed until about 921. "II" and "III" of Glckner as a single count
found the manuscript of the historical work of Richer of Reims,
Robert continua dfendre le nord de la France contre les attaques des Normands. Fuld., s.a. 867,
was to give them a common mother. Richer, i, 5, MGH SS 3: 570]. dimicans occiditur, alter quodammodo nostris temporibus
In none of these cases is the
He thus secured a good landed base for expansion. relative of Robert, Eudes of Troyes and Chteaudun, is not
of king Robert I is also made improbable by a consanguinity
"Capetian" dynasty of kings of France. His paternal grandparents are Turchetil HARCOURT and Adeline De MONTFORT. Hardouin, see below]. Kung Roberts hr segrade i ett slag mot normanderna vid Soissons, Frankrike, i juni r 923, men kung Robert stupade sjlv i slaget. The elaborate scenario of Joseph Depoin
Pour le sens donner demarchus (ou demarchio) et trimarchio, nous avouons notre perplexit (voir, ci-dessous, la Discussion, notre rponse Michel Parisse) et d'autant qu'il parat constant, la chancellerie royale elle-mme, o seul demarchus apparat, d'intituler indiffremment, d'un diplme un autre, un mme personnage tel Robert: demarchus (Ph. Chaource in Tonnerrois ["Karolus imperator Augustus, pro
109-110, 124-7]. Merlet (1897b) = Ren Merlet, "Rponse
This supposed common mother of
Fort. Since 2007, the English Wikipedia page of Robert the Strong has received more than 515,782 page views. fuerat comitis Megingaudi, causa orationis, ut solita est, cellam
Through his second wife, Batrice of Vermandois, daughter of Herbert I of Vermandois, he had his only son, Hugh the Great, who was later dux Francorum and father of King Hugh Capet, and a daughter Richilda. The peace between the king and his powerful vassal was not seriously disturbed until about 921. Charles le Chauve restored to the church at Reims lands which he
(the words in brackets are crossed out) Richer, Historia,
Kalckstein (1871) = Carl von Kalckstein, Robert
Robert efterlmnade en son Hugo den store vars son Hugo Capet kom att verta tronen frn den karolingiska tten. 1866). s.a. 866, MGH SS 6: 341], and by Aubry de Troisfontaines in the
887-923. Klla: "Normandernas Hvding" av Rune Pr Olofsson. cit. mentioned first among the leaders of the revolt in a letter
either that abbot Hugues was a brother of Robert le Fort, or that
Alleaume of Troyes as brothers is correct, then Robert le Fort
The earliest to offer
WebRobert the Strong is in the 18th generation of the family tree for Robert de Ferrers (Ahnentafel #253828). consanguineis nostris, atque his qui servicio nostro adherent;
Meingaud as a son of Walaho [Glckner (1936), 346, see above]. His family is named after him and called the Robertians. of the knightly class is scarcely believable, and Richer's bias
Robert "III" (with no direct evidence for the
does not also give this parentage to Robert le Fort) [Werner
brother: Wichard,
families would also explain the evidence. grandmother of Charles the Simple. count of Tours under Charlemagne, and that he was the father of
His wife Thoderade appears in an act of 890 ["
Eudes appears in Burgundy from 8634,
King Robert I & his first wife had one child: The Chronicle of Alberic de Trois-Fontaines refers to "comitis Heriberti generRoberti" and in a later passage to the sister of "dux Hugo Cappatus" as the wife of "comitis Heriberti de Peroni, Campanie et Veromandie" but does not name her[69]. Speier, and places him in a family of noble but not royal
of the Chronicle of Saint-Bnigne de Dijon. However, the annal for 867 in Annales
The
and a certain Guntram gave land in Bnsheim in Rheingau for his
Sigehard, Miracula S. Maximini, c. 13, MGH SS 4: 232] He
Ann. Among those authors who
the frs. He was elected as RAOUL King of France in 13 Jul 923 at Soissons to succeed his father-in-law, consecrated by Gautier Archbishop of Sens at the Abbey of Saint-Mdard de Soissons. Unknown Father of Robert IV the Strong loco Kalendis Ianuarii, corpusque eius apud Sanctum Dionisium
relationship which has been so often assumed is only one
Falsely attributed
Laureshamensis, 3 vols., (Darmstadt, 1929-36)]. a close relative of Hugues the Abbot, a nephew of the empress
Agane, plus another later variant which differs only in the
Enfin, il y a le groupe des lettres publies rcemment par B. Bischoff (Anecdota novissima, 1984, p. 123-137). the false conclusion that Regina, mother of Hugues by
Commentary section for a detailed discussion. Cui non impari, verum aeque generoso
Ett par rhundraden utvidgade Karl den store riket avsevrt. This is based partly
m. Gisle, daughter of Louis II le Bgue, king of France. 892, Guillaume I, count of Prigueux and
Robert the Strong (1897a), 26-7]. cit. Meingaud II a nephew of king Eudes, based on Regino's chronicle
be a daughter of a count Eudes (Uoto) who appears in
his teens), of which he was deprived in 868 ["Ablatis
Robert le Fort and Meingaud I was then conjectured by Depoin to
in 3, Paris, 1902-6). Through his first wife, Aelis, a descendant of Charlemagne, he had two daughters. Robert as a brother of Meingaud II, along with the description of
excellentiam regalis etiam stemmatis per sororem adeptus erat
Eudes of Troyes close relatives was based mainly on three
author most often cited in further support for this thesis is
events for which he is a contemporary witness, his earlier
restitution of lands to the monastery of Hornbach [Glckner
the wife of Robert, for example. 172-174 19 juin 914 ). However, the theory has serious problems which
identified with Aleran I (d. bef. Through his first wife, Aelis, he had two daughters. 2. would not have been noted in any of the contemporary sources. Emma, marie vers 918 avec Raoul, duc de Bourgogne, puis roi de France. A more likely
supporting evidence. evidence that have been put forward in support of this. Another conjectured connection between Robert le Fort and
Adlade, the mother of Hugues. The peace between the king and his powerful vassal was not seriously disturbed until about 921. Bertin., s.a. 866, 81, see above] and the fact that Eudes of
Robertus comes partibus Actardi episcopi, de terra comitatis
Conrad's widow. He was present at the Siege of Paris in 885. Robert the Strong | Historica Wiki | Fandom Lorsch a manse with all appurtenances at Mettenheim in Wormsgau
celebratas ad occiduas partes proficisci. deliberately denigrating the new dynasty by making them descend
Witichinum advenam Germanem." transiens, Meidunum super Ligerim adit, Rodbertum cum placitis
After him are Linji Yixuan, Liudolf, Duke of Saxony, Ordoo I of Asturias, Bardas, Charles the Child, Al-Musta'in, Eberhard of Friuli, and Ranulf I of Aquitaine. Robert, d. February 886, count
Although these arguments are not conclusive,
two Meingauds, and to explain the connection of Meingaud to
He was elected ROBERT I King of France 22 Jun 922, consecrated at Reims by Gauthier Archbishop of Sens. This interpretation is forced
Roberto I deixou um filho, Hugo, o Grande, Duque dos francos, e seu neto, Hugo Capeto, futuro Rei da Frana e fundador da Dinastia dos Capetos. Notes. (1959)]. Gautier, bishop of Orlans, complaining about unkept promises of
mei domni Rodulfi regis, harum videlicet rerum largitorem; tum
young [" Hugoni clerico, avunculi sui Chonradi filio,
prhistoire des Captiens 481-987 (Premire partie -
Mathilde) [Barthlemy (1873), 113]. Giry (1896), 133 (#23)]. WebRobert, known as "the Strong", was born in Stanton Harcourt, Oxfordshire, England . Sens, 1, pt. Detta gjorde han kunde behlla sina poster och egendomar och fortstta att bekmpa attackerna frn vikingar. Wampach (1935) = Camillus
Bertin., s.a. 868, 91; however, Chaume would identify this
Appointed by Odo ruler of several counties, including the county of Paris, and abbot in commendam of many abbeys, Robert also secured the office of duke of the Franks, a military dignity of high importance. Tours, and all we really know is that Robert must have been count
d. 834, count of Blois (and Chteaudun? first time in modern scholarship, there was an early (if not
He did not claim the crown of West Francia when his brother died in 898; but recognising the supremacy of the Carolingian king, Charles the Simple, he was confirmed in his offices and possessions, after which he continued to defend northern Francia from the attacks of the Norsemen. As noted by Ren Merlet and Ferdinand Lot, what evidence
were received back in favor in 861 [Ann. Robert did not claim the crown on his brother's death in 898, but recognized the Carolingian king, Charles III; Robert continued to defend northern France from Norman attacks as "duke of the Franks"; about 921 he gathered support for his claim, and drove Charles into Lorraine; 06-29-922 he was crowned at Rheims and the next year faced Charles' attempt to oust him, during which "in a stubborn and sanguinary battle near Soissons, Robert was killed, according to one tradition, in single combat with his rival." deprived of the counties of Chteaudun (which probably included
25 April 854) [Pancarte
S. Mauri, MGH SS 15: 463; ibid., 471]. notes to the chronicle [Chron. Aug 778\nd. He did not claim the crown of West Francia when his brother died in 898; but recognising the supremacy of the Carolingian king, Charles the Simple, he was confirmed in his offices and possessions, after which he continued to defend northern Francia from the attacks of the Norsemen.The peace between the king and his powerful vassal was not seriously disturbed until about 921. In addition, when Louis
predecessoris sui Aledramni, quondam fidelis comitis nostri, ex
Karolus
origines de Robert le Fort", Mlanges Julien Havet
" Ann. Bertin., s.a. 876, 130]. Falsely attributed
Robert was born in 866 as the posthumous son of Robert the Strong, count of Anjou and Adelaide of Tours. Bibl. Merlet would also make
91. justificatives #1); Werner (1959), 147-150]. of 868 and 870 there appears a second Meingaud, qualified as vicedomnus,
Collecting an army, Charles marched against the usurper, and on June 15 923, in a stubborn and sanguinary battle near Soissons, Robert was killed, according to one tradition in single combat with his rival. Vedast., s.a. 888, 64-5;
Marriage* Robert I Capet De Morvais, King of West Franks, Marquis De Neustra married Beatrice de Vermandois in 890. 8, locus iste delegatus est cuidam Ruberto comiti ad
892, count in Wormsgau & Mayenfeld, lay-abbot of
entries in Annales Xantenses during this period are
of count Guillaume of Blois (differing from Merlet in that he
principal leader of the Saxons who fought against Charlemagne. Vstfrankiska riket, ett historiskt rike, bildat ca 843 som omfattade ungefr det omrde som utgr dagens Frankrike till skillnad frn det stfrankiska riket som ungefr motsvarar dagens Tyskland och sterrike och blev det tysk-romerska riket. (1937a), 253-261]. Saint-Phalle (2000) = Edouard de
Under Roberts regjeringstid forble Rollo lojal mot Karl, som fortsatte bestride sin avsettelse. pointed out, the words "Odone quondam comite
when they encountered Robert and several other counts with a
nickname is also used by Sigebert of Gembloux, writing about 1100
filii Rotberti Andegavorum comitis, frs. unum congregati cum consensu Arnulfi Odonem ducem, filium
Italian wife (emperor Lothair I was mentioned as a possible
62-63). [4] Appointed by Odo ruler of several counties, including the county of Paris, and abbot in commendam of many abbeys, Robert also secured the office of Dux Francorum, a military dignity of high importance. Flodoard, Historia
197-198. Levillain (1937a), 155, n. 1; the date of 10 August is based on
named Meingaud. [Glckner (1936), see above]. 1876-1903). Eudes succeeded Aleran
Although this phrasing usually indicates husband and wife, Settipani suggests that the chronology of the life of King Robert's son Hugues (attested as Robert's son by his second wife Batrix) favours his birth, and therefore his father's second marriage, well before 907, which would mean "Adele" could not have been Robert's wife. Some of these can be rejected outright. refer to vague claims of ancient Roman descent [Settipani (1993),
876882?,
MGH SS 2: 790]. cited by Anselme, 1: 66; RHF 10: iii, vii-viii; Barthlemy
he had given him, and granted them to his faithful man Robert
[Anselme, 1: 66; RHF 10: iii, viii] This variation, for which
Robert also secured the office of Dux Francorum, a military dignity of high importance. that the sons of Geoffroy (count of Maine) invaded the castle and
Ppin II of Aquitaine and the Bretons ["Pippinus
Roberts frste kone var Aelis. This relationship is based on a supposed
[6] Robert's rule was contested by the Viking leader Rollo, who had settled in Normandy in 911 with the permission of Charles the Simple. Merlet's case for making Robert le Fort and
as count of Anjou. count Robert is followed as a witness by a Wichard (Wigchradus),
and sister of Hugues the Abbot. [Merlet (1897a), 49; Lot (1906), 203; Levillain (1937a), 159;
Xisti, quod vocatur Rotila." Robert "III"), mentioning doubt only in the case of the
apposition to filii). 22 April, count of Troyes, nephew of Robert,
Arnoldi regis ac incarnationis Domini 897, indict. et ceteris in vestra societate conjunctis, salutarem
The rule of Charles, and especially his partiality for a certain Hagano, had aroused some irritation; and, supported by many of the clergy and by some of the most powerful of the Frankish nobles, Robert took up arms, drove Charles into Lorraine, and was himself crowned king of the Franks (rex Francorum) at Rheims on 29 June 922. A few years
The claim
in regressu suo usque ad locum qui dicitur Brieserta veniunt; ubi
s.a. 865, 79]. R. LATOUCHE, I, Paris 1930, 1. by his wife Oda. There is also circumstantial evidence
Thus, in apparent support of Richer, we have the account of
fact that Glckner would identify the Meingaud who appears from
Italy, emperor. [Werner (1959), 153, 179] (While they may not be the same
Chaume makes Meingaud I a brother of Robert le Fort and
first appears in the records in 8367 as Robert, son of count
A member of a powerful aristocratic family and a count of various regions between the Seine and Loire rivers, Robert served the Carolingian king of France Charles II the Bald; by his bold and inspiring military Robert was deceased by 19 February 834, when his widow Waldrade
passage was referring to king Eudes [Depoin (1905), 10], and
Xantenses et Annales Vedastini (MGH SRG 12, 1909), 1-33. alienus " (i.e., Eudes), Flodoard, Historia
His family is known as the Robertians. Before the nineteenth century, Conrad of Ursperg or of
honores of the son of the late count Eudes (located from
This theory comes from Helgaud's life of king Robert II, which
(Paris, 1904). under Alleaume, count of Laon, which actually refers to Robert and
sibi consentiebant per manu Waltheri archiepiscopi benedicti sibi
probability with the count Robert whose widow Waldrade appears in
Robert fut couronn roi des Francs Reims par l'archevque de Sens, Gautier, le dimanche 30 juin 922. has often been criticised [e.g., Kalckstein (1871), 113-4; Tellenbach
likely that Meingaud II was a close blood relative of Robert. = Friedrich Kurze, ed., Annales
On 8 March 812, a
Nascido cerca de 866, achou-se na Batalha de Soissons 15.06.923 Pais: Pai: Roberto o Forte, marqus da Neustria Me: Ema da Argvia Casamentos Beatriz de Vermandois Filhos Hugo o Grande, marqus de Neustria, duque de Frana * 895 Heduvige de Saxe, in, http://pagfam.geneall.net/1180/pessoas.php?id=1050980. He
Charles rassembla une arme et marcha contre Robert, et le 15 juin 923, Robert fut tu par Fulbert, Faubert, Foubert[6] au cours de la bataille de Soissons. comitatum Nivernensem donavit." Bertin.,
If Batrix
Xant., s.a. 866, 23; Hlawitschka (2006), 2:
sister married king Ppin I of Aquitaine ["Huius itaque
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